BECsufferer
08-14 12:04 PM
Currently NSC processing time for employment based 485 is 15th Sept. 2007... My notice date is 18th Sept. 2007 (based on case status shown on USCIS site)
Looks like I am going to miss my GC by 3 days and wait till next year :mad: I highly doubt that dates will stay at 2005 during next month bulletin.. (I truly hope I am wrong!)
My PD is 12/04 and yesterday I learned they haven't even opened my case file. So for all these years it had been gathering dust. But that could be just my kismet and your might be different. Anyways, I am not looking for GC till 4th qtr 2010:cool:.
Looks like I am going to miss my GC by 3 days and wait till next year :mad: I highly doubt that dates will stay at 2005 during next month bulletin.. (I truly hope I am wrong!)
My PD is 12/04 and yesterday I learned they haven't even opened my case file. So for all these years it had been gathering dust. But that could be just my kismet and your might be different. Anyways, I am not looking for GC till 4th qtr 2010:cool:.
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08-11 02:36 PM
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hopefulgc
09-12 11:37 AM
Please do not forget the guywho sets the visa dates.. think he is called charles Oppenheimer or something.
He is the one who needs to look at the past visa dates and go "USCIS.. I need stats to predict this more uniformly and fairly"
And we need to raise stink about this since he is not doing his job properly .. or maybe he just doens't realize the ramifications of his actions
Just created one more poster.
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_132g6jcsffz&invite=hczhh8x
One of the persons should be Director USCIS.
One letter/poster to each service center.
One I think should be President of US.
Another place could be CNN, FOX news etc.
Another one could be Congressmen
If we have our blogs , we can post them there also.
He is the one who needs to look at the past visa dates and go "USCIS.. I need stats to predict this more uniformly and fairly"
And we need to raise stink about this since he is not doing his job properly .. or maybe he just doens't realize the ramifications of his actions
Just created one more poster.
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_132g6jcsffz&invite=hczhh8x
One of the persons should be Director USCIS.
One letter/poster to each service center.
One I think should be President of US.
Another place could be CNN, FOX news etc.
Another one could be Congressmen
If we have our blogs , we can post them there also.
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geniousatwork
08-13 02:52 PM
Congrats!
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bestofall
03-06 10:35 AM
I will do my part before 31 st March
qasleuth
02-25 12:15 PM
The idea needs to be taken to the next step, How about a conference call....I can provide a Bridge for the call
I am hoping realizeit is in the process of contacting IV core and will update us soon. If not, realizeit please update as to what you are planning on doing.
After IV core gives us the go ahead, I think we should take your offer on the bridge call.
I would also suggest, not sending any mails yet to Ombudsman till we form a plan of action.
Ofcourse, still eagerly waiting for desi3933 to get back to us with cold hard analysis to set us straight :)
I am hoping realizeit is in the process of contacting IV core and will update us soon. If not, realizeit please update as to what you are planning on doing.
After IV core gives us the go ahead, I think we should take your offer on the bridge call.
I would also suggest, not sending any mails yet to Ombudsman till we form a plan of action.
Ofcourse, still eagerly waiting for desi3933 to get back to us with cold hard analysis to set us straight :)
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ItIsNotFunny
03-06 10:29 AM
Guys,
Please DO NOT vote "Yes" if you are not intending to contribute $25 for this cause. Whoever enters yes, I will pursue and make sure we get contribution before 31st March. Please make sure you send me PM with your contact information if not paying withing a week.
Please please please, do not put junk on this forum. Keep bumping up anyways.
Core, no offense meant, but please don't shy voting on this. I usually don't see core voting, understandable but keep this as an exception.
P.S.
How to donate:
1. Look at top of the thread. There is a donation bar with green progress bar.
2. Click on a link "Donate Now"
3. This will redirect you to donation selection page. Please select type of your contribution. You may choose recurring subscription for multiple months or if you want to make one time contribution, please select subscription for 1 month.
4. Click Donate. This will redirect you to pay pal secured page. You may choose your pay pal account or pay by credit card over here. You may see your name as user on pay pal page.
5. Submit payment.
6. Page will show you reference number. Please copy and paste of this thread - Optional but recommended.
7. You will receive an email from IV about payment confirmation. Your status will be changed to "Donor" from Junior / Senior member. You will not status as donor if you are IV Admin - kidding :).
Update from Pappu:
As everyone is aware of the FOIA letters we have received from USCIS. We requested everyone to fax/email us the USCIS letter.
Here is an update on IV plans and what we know till now:
On Friday, during the discussions with USCIS, we came to know that that there is a backlog of FOIA requests and currently they are clearing FOIA requests they received in 2007. We also know from the letter that the report wll not have 'country of chargeability' info. This is a critical info that we ought to have. Even after paying 5K to USCIS, over one year wait time to get the FOIA request completed will be unacceptable to the community.
In light of these developments we have explored other options to get this data and use the copies of replies we get as an example how badly we need this data to get accurate picture of the size and breakdown of the current backlog, so that we can all know how long we need to wait in the current system, if nothing changes. We would also ideally like such data to be always available and updated for public periodically.
Our first option is that we put in effort to get this data without having to pay $5K to USCIS. We will also try to get the data much sooner rather than all of us wait for more than a year.This could be possible via advocacy effort and our initial discussions on this subject have been promising. We will pursue this and if we do not make much progress until the deadline then we may pay 5K and still pursue the advocacy option to get the data faster. Thus we need more than 5K to proceed with these parallel options. The advocacy effort will also be an ongoing task beyond the first month. Thus we request members to sign up for recurring payment option to support this initiative and any other initiative we undertake for the community.
We have added a paypal module on the top of each page with a target amount. Members can use this fresh tool added to IV website to contribute. We prefer if members contributing to the effort on recurring monthly basis for a long term support of IV efforts. All members who contribute through this system will also have access to special 'Contributor's Forum' on the IV website.
Thank You for your effort and contribution for building a stronger community.
Please DO NOT vote "Yes" if you are not intending to contribute $25 for this cause. Whoever enters yes, I will pursue and make sure we get contribution before 31st March. Please make sure you send me PM with your contact information if not paying withing a week.
Please please please, do not put junk on this forum. Keep bumping up anyways.
Core, no offense meant, but please don't shy voting on this. I usually don't see core voting, understandable but keep this as an exception.
P.S.
How to donate:
1. Look at top of the thread. There is a donation bar with green progress bar.
2. Click on a link "Donate Now"
3. This will redirect you to donation selection page. Please select type of your contribution. You may choose recurring subscription for multiple months or if you want to make one time contribution, please select subscription for 1 month.
4. Click Donate. This will redirect you to pay pal secured page. You may choose your pay pal account or pay by credit card over here. You may see your name as user on pay pal page.
5. Submit payment.
6. Page will show you reference number. Please copy and paste of this thread - Optional but recommended.
7. You will receive an email from IV about payment confirmation. Your status will be changed to "Donor" from Junior / Senior member. You will not status as donor if you are IV Admin - kidding :).
Update from Pappu:
As everyone is aware of the FOIA letters we have received from USCIS. We requested everyone to fax/email us the USCIS letter.
Here is an update on IV plans and what we know till now:
On Friday, during the discussions with USCIS, we came to know that that there is a backlog of FOIA requests and currently they are clearing FOIA requests they received in 2007. We also know from the letter that the report wll not have 'country of chargeability' info. This is a critical info that we ought to have. Even after paying 5K to USCIS, over one year wait time to get the FOIA request completed will be unacceptable to the community.
In light of these developments we have explored other options to get this data and use the copies of replies we get as an example how badly we need this data to get accurate picture of the size and breakdown of the current backlog, so that we can all know how long we need to wait in the current system, if nothing changes. We would also ideally like such data to be always available and updated for public periodically.
Our first option is that we put in effort to get this data without having to pay $5K to USCIS. We will also try to get the data much sooner rather than all of us wait for more than a year.This could be possible via advocacy effort and our initial discussions on this subject have been promising. We will pursue this and if we do not make much progress until the deadline then we may pay 5K and still pursue the advocacy option to get the data faster. Thus we need more than 5K to proceed with these parallel options. The advocacy effort will also be an ongoing task beyond the first month. Thus we request members to sign up for recurring payment option to support this initiative and any other initiative we undertake for the community.
We have added a paypal module on the top of each page with a target amount. Members can use this fresh tool added to IV website to contribute. We prefer if members contributing to the effort on recurring monthly basis for a long term support of IV efforts. All members who contribute through this system will also have access to special 'Contributor's Forum' on the IV website.
Thank You for your effort and contribution for building a stronger community.
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ragz4u
04-20 09:14 AM
Even during the recess, we were talking to the staff of a ton of senators. Most of the time the senators' staff are interested only if someone from 'their constituency' is also affected. We always say we have a ton of folks from each state, but nothing works like a real example.
For example, when we speak to say Senator Kennedy, it helps us to present the story of folks affected by retrogression and living in say Boston, MA. That way, the staff has some incentive to look into this and get hooked immediately.
Since time is short this time, we need all the stories from each state to make our case.
As promised, we will not reveal your story to media if you do not want to.
Though there is no harm to reveal one's name in media as can be noticed by the folks featured in the Roll Call article, Philly Inquirer and News Observer.
We will just concentrate on the crux how you are suffering because of delays such that even if your boss reads this story, he will not be offended or put off (Read our members stories in the three articles I have mentioned, none of it can get the IV members in any trouble at all).
At the same time we understand that you might have reasons to remain out of media and we will fully respect that.
But please send in your stories so we have a convincing story to make our case.....
For example, when we speak to say Senator Kennedy, it helps us to present the story of folks affected by retrogression and living in say Boston, MA. That way, the staff has some incentive to look into this and get hooked immediately.
Since time is short this time, we need all the stories from each state to make our case.
As promised, we will not reveal your story to media if you do not want to.
Though there is no harm to reveal one's name in media as can be noticed by the folks featured in the Roll Call article, Philly Inquirer and News Observer.
We will just concentrate on the crux how you are suffering because of delays such that even if your boss reads this story, he will not be offended or put off (Read our members stories in the three articles I have mentioned, none of it can get the IV members in any trouble at all).
At the same time we understand that you might have reasons to remain out of media and we will fully respect that.
But please send in your stories so we have a convincing story to make our case.....
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srinivas_o
07-17 07:49 PM
Can't express my happiness in words. Great Job.
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santb1975
11-19 05:09 PM
Great way to put this
I beg to differ. IV is not turning away anyone. What stops someone from contributing $100 once every 10 months?
The issue is something else.
In order to contribute even $10, you need to:
1) be convinced about the cause of IV
2) be convinced this organization means business!
3) give up the "penny wise pound foolish" attitude
(1) This should be easy for those who were unable to file their AOS applications in July/August 2007, because one of IV's primary goals (abolish retrogression) should then be your goal.
This is also easy for those who filed their AOS, if only they realize that "working on AC21/EAD" is not as much fun as it seems, you really need the Green Card to live and work the way you want!
(2) is a proven fact, and most of us are already enjoying the benefits of this!
(3) Finally, people feel overwhelmed by the thought of donating $50 or $100 to IV but they are happy to spend much more on gasoline, phone-calls, and drinks. You make no difference to your quality of life when you spend $50 on gas and $100 on food when you go sight seeing on a weekend. But when you donate that money to IV, you are supporting the one and only grass roots organization that means business when it comes to fighting for your own quality of life!
It's like investing in a "credit score" monitoring product for a year before you actually apply for a loan!
If that analogy makes sense, please please realize you need a similar strategy for your green card, and contribute to IV.
Preferably, sign up for recurring contributions, as this is the one thing that will help IV in forecasting and planning.
If nothing else, write to a core team member and let them know you will pay $N1 over N2 number of months.
Thanks!
I beg to differ. IV is not turning away anyone. What stops someone from contributing $100 once every 10 months?
The issue is something else.
In order to contribute even $10, you need to:
1) be convinced about the cause of IV
2) be convinced this organization means business!
3) give up the "penny wise pound foolish" attitude
(1) This should be easy for those who were unable to file their AOS applications in July/August 2007, because one of IV's primary goals (abolish retrogression) should then be your goal.
This is also easy for those who filed their AOS, if only they realize that "working on AC21/EAD" is not as much fun as it seems, you really need the Green Card to live and work the way you want!
(2) is a proven fact, and most of us are already enjoying the benefits of this!
(3) Finally, people feel overwhelmed by the thought of donating $50 or $100 to IV but they are happy to spend much more on gasoline, phone-calls, and drinks. You make no difference to your quality of life when you spend $50 on gas and $100 on food when you go sight seeing on a weekend. But when you donate that money to IV, you are supporting the one and only grass roots organization that means business when it comes to fighting for your own quality of life!
It's like investing in a "credit score" monitoring product for a year before you actually apply for a loan!
If that analogy makes sense, please please realize you need a similar strategy for your green card, and contribute to IV.
Preferably, sign up for recurring contributions, as this is the one thing that will help IV in forecasting and planning.
If nothing else, write to a core team member and let them know you will pay $N1 over N2 number of months.
Thanks!
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hotscud21
02-25 11:16 AM
I totally agree with your idea and am sure that it would be great relief for all of us. But USCIS is so lazy that they do adjudicate cases which have their priority dates as "current". It would be a miracle if they really adjudicate all cases even if the visa number is not available. I think we should also push for a system where USCIS should release the total number of cases adjudicated on a weekly/monthly basis so that the process is transparent and we can see how much work they do.
I hope they pre-adjudicate all our cases and end our miseries.
I hope they pre-adjudicate all our cases and end our miseries.
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alterego
09-07 10:31 PM
Isn’t it odd that the timing of your rally coincides with the introduction of the Strive act?
Granted you scored a point when you were allowed to file for employment authorization this July. If your one rally worked, do you really think other rallies will work too? The world of politics is driven by numbers; you do not have enough numbers to get any lawmaker interested. So wake up Macacas, admit it, you all are bunch of losers.
So far as the skills are concerned, you have been harping on the theme that you are highly skilled? If the definition of highly skilled is a mere undergrad degrees then 75% of Adult Americans are highly skilled. I bet not even 5% of you have PHDs and you call yourself highly skilled. Huhhh
And this for the leadership of your organization: You are wasting your time. If you are so desperate to get green cards contact me. We will see what we can do… One thing I believe though is this country needs people with leadership skills and not so called "Highly Skilled". So I will be more than happy to work with you. I am sure you have my e-mail address. At the least, I can help make the process faster for you, if so called visa numbers are available.
Yeah it coincides with a hearing about it(it was introduced months ago).....................so what? You are making a point that you alone seem to understand. huhh..............poor communication skills.
"Numbers are the only thing that matter"................wrong again. Numbers and economic clout. If you doubt this then just have a look at how the lobbying industry works and what motivates them. The current and future economic clout of this community as well as its contribution to the economic infrastructure far exceeds the numbers. The point is this community has skills that are in demand, here, in Canada in the UK and elsewhere. Only narrow minded bigots like you can't understand that. Fortunately you and your ilk is in a minority in this much more enlightened country.
75% of Americans have undergrad. degrees...............where did you pull that one out of............you rear end? Care to quote a source? Since when did a Phd become a benchmark for highly skilled? Stop degrading yourself in such a pathetic way. You forefathers who struggled so hard to arrive here would have wanted better for you.
As for your effort to divide the organization, well the less said about that the better.
Granted you scored a point when you were allowed to file for employment authorization this July. If your one rally worked, do you really think other rallies will work too? The world of politics is driven by numbers; you do not have enough numbers to get any lawmaker interested. So wake up Macacas, admit it, you all are bunch of losers.
So far as the skills are concerned, you have been harping on the theme that you are highly skilled? If the definition of highly skilled is a mere undergrad degrees then 75% of Adult Americans are highly skilled. I bet not even 5% of you have PHDs and you call yourself highly skilled. Huhhh
And this for the leadership of your organization: You are wasting your time. If you are so desperate to get green cards contact me. We will see what we can do… One thing I believe though is this country needs people with leadership skills and not so called "Highly Skilled". So I will be more than happy to work with you. I am sure you have my e-mail address. At the least, I can help make the process faster for you, if so called visa numbers are available.
Yeah it coincides with a hearing about it(it was introduced months ago).....................so what? You are making a point that you alone seem to understand. huhh..............poor communication skills.
"Numbers are the only thing that matter"................wrong again. Numbers and economic clout. If you doubt this then just have a look at how the lobbying industry works and what motivates them. The current and future economic clout of this community as well as its contribution to the economic infrastructure far exceeds the numbers. The point is this community has skills that are in demand, here, in Canada in the UK and elsewhere. Only narrow minded bigots like you can't understand that. Fortunately you and your ilk is in a minority in this much more enlightened country.
75% of Americans have undergrad. degrees...............where did you pull that one out of............you rear end? Care to quote a source? Since when did a Phd become a benchmark for highly skilled? Stop degrading yourself in such a pathetic way. You forefathers who struggled so hard to arrive here would have wanted better for you.
As for your effort to divide the organization, well the less said about that the better.
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mps
04-11 11:17 PM
I read on Rajiv Khanna's blog that PD for LC substitution cases should be the date when I-140 is filed for substitute however, there is evidence that USCIS has wrongly assigned orginal priority date of LC filing, to substitute (I have seen this happening in one case at least, where susbstitue got priotity date of LC).
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vin13
02-26 03:26 PM
Realizeit....great idea.
Can IV admins, Realizeit and team, plese come up with an action plan from various replies on this thread and post it on IV's front page so that we can start working on it and contributing towards it?
Grazie.
i think you make a good point. I would like to see this on the front page about the developments. The front page could have all the projects that are being considered at this time. This will be more effective than going through the forums.
Can IV admins, Realizeit and team, plese come up with an action plan from various replies on this thread and post it on IV's front page so that we can start working on it and contributing towards it?
Grazie.
i think you make a good point. I would like to see this on the front page about the developments. The front page could have all the projects that are being considered at this time. This will be more effective than going through the forums.
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hebbar77
04-13 02:29 PM
I am no expert but here is what I think.
by concentrating energy on spilled over milk, why not work towards recapturing unused visa numbers? It has been done in past successfully. It is in huge numbers, guess around 300-400K or so.
while wasting energy on 2-3K or may be 5K lc sub cases will do no good for everyone. visa recapture will solve problems for most of the community.
take your pick. its no brainer!!!
LC Sub is long gone. Those who *legally* got pre-2001 may already have gc by now, and its not going to affect them anyway.
Think in a professional manner and do what provides the most benefit.
ok , agreed. Can pappu get it done within certain time. How much does it cost?
Lets share the bill. Straight to business!
by concentrating energy on spilled over milk, why not work towards recapturing unused visa numbers? It has been done in past successfully. It is in huge numbers, guess around 300-400K or so.
while wasting energy on 2-3K or may be 5K lc sub cases will do no good for everyone. visa recapture will solve problems for most of the community.
take your pick. its no brainer!!!
LC Sub is long gone. Those who *legally* got pre-2001 may already have gc by now, and its not going to affect them anyway.
Think in a professional manner and do what provides the most benefit.
ok , agreed. Can pappu get it done within certain time. How much does it cost?
Lets share the bill. Straight to business!
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uma001
08-16 08:35 PM
PotatoEater,
I grow different kind in my backyard. It all depends on the size of your backyard and which zone you live in states. I live in virginia. By this August end /september first week summer crop will end. I grow tomatoes(30 plants), Mint, snake guard, water melons (15 plants), cantaloupes(10 plants), carrots, okra, spinach , chillis. Its fun and hard work too. You need to dig the soil, mix with top soil or garden soil and cultivate it. Every week fertilize it. This is my first year gardening. I have around 3000 square ft of back yard. i do not know what to do with that. I cannot maintain Lawn in back yard. So I decided to grow vegetables.
I am eagerly waiting for my fall garden..I am planning to grow tulips,beets,cilantro,carrots,potato,peas etc., If I can get same space for garden In India and work place just 3 miles from home , I can happily go back to India.
kart2007,
I got it from gardenweb.com long time back.
have: who did not get their snake gourd seeds yet? - Carolina Gardening Forum - GardenWeb (http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/carolgard/exch0203540615546.html)
sometimes I get it from ebay
I grow different kind in my backyard. It all depends on the size of your backyard and which zone you live in states. I live in virginia. By this August end /september first week summer crop will end. I grow tomatoes(30 plants), Mint, snake guard, water melons (15 plants), cantaloupes(10 plants), carrots, okra, spinach , chillis. Its fun and hard work too. You need to dig the soil, mix with top soil or garden soil and cultivate it. Every week fertilize it. This is my first year gardening. I have around 3000 square ft of back yard. i do not know what to do with that. I cannot maintain Lawn in back yard. So I decided to grow vegetables.
I am eagerly waiting for my fall garden..I am planning to grow tulips,beets,cilantro,carrots,potato,peas etc., If I can get same space for garden In India and work place just 3 miles from home , I can happily go back to India.
kart2007,
I got it from gardenweb.com long time back.
have: who did not get their snake gourd seeds yet? - Carolina Gardening Forum - GardenWeb (http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/carolgard/exch0203540615546.html)
sometimes I get it from ebay
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ragz4u
04-25 01:24 PM
But he also mentioned that you had not started your GC process. The reporter wanted to speak to someone who is already in the process and affected by it.
We also were in touch with another highly skilled/educated PhD holder from China who was very eager to help but unfortunately his GC process had also not started
If this is incorrect, please let me know asap.
We also were in touch with another highly skilled/educated PhD holder from China who was very eager to help but unfortunately his GC process had also not started
If this is incorrect, please let me know asap.
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pappu
09-14 12:44 AM
Even one year after July 07 bulletin, the State Department is saying that USCIS is not estimating accurately. Where is the question of estimates, they should look at ACTUAL data.
And where is IV management? Yes, people should work with their state chapters.....but now is the time for the core IV group to wake up and take up the fight with the higher ups in the goverment. Show them how the State Department + USCIS is treating immigrants because of their lethargy and laziness.
I think state department has made a mistake by writing that USCIS can not estimate (in the latest bulletin) and we should take full advantage of it. Complain-Complain-Complain, make them look bad, and in this election year they may act on it...........
Please stop taking out the frustrations on IV. It is very easy to do. All you need to do is write a post. But doing some real action is the challenge.
We are all like you and in this together. We try to create action items and guide and try to lobby within our limited time, energy and means. Everything else is dependent on members. If members contribute funds we lobby hard. If members are not even willing to contribute $5, and we can only get less than 5K in more than 2 months, how can we accuse core? If members write letters to administration or USCIS, call lawmakers, meet lawmakers etc that directly helps everyone. Members need to involve their big employers and have them contact administration and local lawmakers. We all need to contact media and raise awareness. We all need to create publicity of this effort so that more people can join it and make it successful. We will help you all the way in this effort. Come and travel to DC with all your state chapter members and meet officials. Try taking part in conference calls, answer emails and calls from all kinds of members and non-members, media outreach and mundane official work of IV yourself during office hours and you will see how difficult it is to manage this for IV team.Take days off from your work spend your own money on travel and hotel and visit offices and talk to lawmakers in DC. We will help you with the meetings. IV core has been doing that and we get such brickbats through such posts.
Just accusing IV, writing posts about ideas or action, and asking IV to wake up will not solve anything. This is a community effort and each IV member is responsible for the failure or success. IV leaders already devote lot of time from their professional and personal life on this effort. Individual members need to step up if they want more and take it upon themselves to get active.
And where is IV management? Yes, people should work with their state chapters.....but now is the time for the core IV group to wake up and take up the fight with the higher ups in the goverment. Show them how the State Department + USCIS is treating immigrants because of their lethargy and laziness.
I think state department has made a mistake by writing that USCIS can not estimate (in the latest bulletin) and we should take full advantage of it. Complain-Complain-Complain, make them look bad, and in this election year they may act on it...........
Please stop taking out the frustrations on IV. It is very easy to do. All you need to do is write a post. But doing some real action is the challenge.
We are all like you and in this together. We try to create action items and guide and try to lobby within our limited time, energy and means. Everything else is dependent on members. If members contribute funds we lobby hard. If members are not even willing to contribute $5, and we can only get less than 5K in more than 2 months, how can we accuse core? If members write letters to administration or USCIS, call lawmakers, meet lawmakers etc that directly helps everyone. Members need to involve their big employers and have them contact administration and local lawmakers. We all need to contact media and raise awareness. We all need to create publicity of this effort so that more people can join it and make it successful. We will help you all the way in this effort. Come and travel to DC with all your state chapter members and meet officials. Try taking part in conference calls, answer emails and calls from all kinds of members and non-members, media outreach and mundane official work of IV yourself during office hours and you will see how difficult it is to manage this for IV team.Take days off from your work spend your own money on travel and hotel and visit offices and talk to lawmakers in DC. We will help you with the meetings. IV core has been doing that and we get such brickbats through such posts.
Just accusing IV, writing posts about ideas or action, and asking IV to wake up will not solve anything. This is a community effort and each IV member is responsible for the failure or success. IV leaders already devote lot of time from their professional and personal life on this effort. Individual members need to step up if they want more and take it upon themselves to get active.
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qasleuth
02-27 09:16 AM
Here is the dilemma.... The Idea is great...It can change our lives But if we sit on the idea for long it will rot So DO WE TAKE ACTION or LET US WAIT FOR CORE TO COME UP WITH SOLUTION. I would suggest we form a small committee or group of people who can brainstorm and come up with possible course of actions and then present the idea to core.
This is similar to House->Judiciary committee -> Immigration sub Committee
idea is to analyze the situation and come up with the best solution rather than waiting for
CORE to act on.
Sounds like a plan. Newbie2020, does your earlier offer for a bridge still stand ? If yes, whoever is interested in attending the initial bridge call, send me a PM with your contact number and name and we will take it from there.
This is similar to House->Judiciary committee -> Immigration sub Committee
idea is to analyze the situation and come up with the best solution rather than waiting for
CORE to act on.
Sounds like a plan. Newbie2020, does your earlier offer for a bridge still stand ? If yes, whoever is interested in attending the initial bridge call, send me a PM with your contact number and name and we will take it from there.
dummgelauft
12-08 11:59 AM
I equate the situation to a person who sneaks into your house at night and in the morning demands that you respect his human rights and provide him with food and water. No one would tolerate that, yet some how some people think thats ok when it comes to the countries borders.
The church encourages it as most of the illegals are catholics. Poor and illeterate people are usually more likely to attend church and contributes to the churches influence. Believe me, were the Mexicans muslims, Jews or Hindus the church wouldnt care and would probably oppose it. The mosques and temples on the other hand might step in..............
Regarding the children, please understand why they are in this situation. Due to the choices made by their parents.
I think you and I can agree that illegals need to be treated with dignity. But they should not be coddled. . A US citizen who commits burglary, driving without a license, outstanding fines could easily be facing a jail term. The article wants you to feel outraged because her leg was shackled? Please read the headline again. Their strategy is to demonize the law enforcement when ever they try to enforce the law against illegals.
Yes the problem is deep seated and complicated. Giving amnesty would make them all legal, so the problem goes away! Just like you hear some people talk about drugs. Lets make all drugs legal, so the problem of illegal drugs will go away! What kind of solution is that?
I am with you 100%.
The church encourages it as most of the illegals are catholics. Poor and illeterate people are usually more likely to attend church and contributes to the churches influence. Believe me, were the Mexicans muslims, Jews or Hindus the church wouldnt care and would probably oppose it. The mosques and temples on the other hand might step in..............
Regarding the children, please understand why they are in this situation. Due to the choices made by their parents.
I think you and I can agree that illegals need to be treated with dignity. But they should not be coddled. . A US citizen who commits burglary, driving without a license, outstanding fines could easily be facing a jail term. The article wants you to feel outraged because her leg was shackled? Please read the headline again. Their strategy is to demonize the law enforcement when ever they try to enforce the law against illegals.
Yes the problem is deep seated and complicated. Giving amnesty would make them all legal, so the problem goes away! Just like you hear some people talk about drugs. Lets make all drugs legal, so the problem of illegal drugs will go away! What kind of solution is that?
I am with you 100%.
newbie2020
02-27 02:15 PM
I corrected it . it is on 3/4/09
Wednesday is 03/04/09. Let me know if you meant tuesday or wednesday.
thanks
Wednesday is 03/04/09. Let me know if you meant tuesday or wednesday.
thanks
